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Tua Pek Kong - August 19, 2006 09:06 AM (GMT)
Bro Jave

Could you enlighten me regarding this OR LENG that was place on temples and Tuas ?

javewu - August 19, 2006 09:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tua Pek Kong @ Aug 19 2006, 06:06 PM)
Bro Jave

Could you enlighten me regarding this OR LENG that was place on temples and Tuas ?


This is a simple form of Or Leng Flag (dont mistaken as the North Camp Flag)
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Or Leng, in Chinese as Hei Ling, in english, translate as the Black Command.

This is a flag to indicate that, there's a troope of armies from a certain temple or altars dedicated to certain Deities, in this area.

This Or Leng is consider as the Xian Feng (combat) of the Heavenly army troopes.

Any particulars issues that needed to report to the main Deities, will need to go thru "him". Some ppl regards him as the Door Deities, but actually is not. He got a ranking higher then the Door Deities.

To be more exact, he does have a title of Officer in the Heavenly Deities Ranking System.

Nowadays, we are able to see "his" statues appearing in the market for ppl to buy or so, in the past, this Deity is only represent by a black colour flag with the Trigrams picture on it.

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Some more to add, in the market, there are 2 types of black flags, one is the one we discussing here - Or Leng, another is the Northern 7 Stars flag (Beo Dou Qi Xing Qi).

They have different usage, but from what i know, some ppl are using the 7 Stars flags to subsitude the Or Leng flags.

Usually the 7 Stars Flags are used in "fighting" with demons or evil spirits.

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So next time, before you pay your respect to the Five Generals in a temple or so, pay your respect to the Black Command Flag 1st.

javewu - August 19, 2006 08:36 PM (GMT)
Additional Info on Or Leng:

不同的擺法,有不同的用途 Different placing will have different usage:

1.黑令旗可以安兵將 used to settle Armies

2.讓過往神明休息 indicating Deities having their "resting" here

3.神明出巡清靜之用 "purifying" the areas where Deities are crossing-by

4.表示此地有神明 indicate all Beings that certain Deities are here

5.讓陰魂鎮守 to allow certain Spirits to settle down in this area

6.招兵買馬 requesting for different forms of Armies

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地府黑令

冤魂至陽間報仇討命所持的黑令旗.....任何神尊皆不能阻擋冤魂報仇....因為冤魂有領旨令

Hell Black Command: Allowing the soul which holding this flag to take revenge. NO beings or Deities are allowed to stop them while they saw this flags.

北極玄天上帝黑令

旗子本身代表帝爺召號令....
當帝爺揮動黑令旗,所有的兵將就須到帝爺前聽令.或者支援

Shang Di Gong Black Command: Gathering the Heavenly Soldiers around.

宮廟壓煞黑令

壓煞...犯陰時由黑令旗出來淨掃壓制

有些會拿來開路...淨掃街道...但旗面不落地...只有竹子落地...

上面會綁鈴鐺...鈴鐺響起凶神惡煞要退兩邊...以鈴鐺聲響告知他們有神尊駕到...要迴避...不然被黑令旗竹掃掃到...魂飛魄散不負責

The normal Black Command (What we discuss earlier).

REBORN - August 20, 2006 03:01 PM (GMT)
Most sintua or temple will just have the "Or Leng" flag displayed in the front.
But actually this Commander have a 'kim sin' (statue).
This one from Woodlands Ind Pk9, Chin Swee Temple:


黑令将军
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javewu - September 20, 2006 05:19 AM (GMT)
Steps used while holding Orh Leng Ki:

1 Seven Stars Step (七星步) - stepping in the shape of the 7 Stars of the North (The Great Dipper of the North)

2 Big Step (大步) - left leg sway from right side then to left, then right leg sway from left to right (左腳跨出.再右腳.)

Tua Pek Kong - September 20, 2006 09:09 AM (GMT)
Bro Javewu

Thanks for the info. sad to say most temples and sintuas treat the Orh Leng Ki just another flag for them to carry without knowing the proper procedure of handling it. Tradition had been retrofit.

javewu - September 20, 2006 09:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tua Pek Kong @ Sep 20 2006, 06:09 PM)
Bro Javewu

Thanks for the info. sad to say most temples and sintuas treat the Orh Leng Ki just another flag for them to carry without knowing the proper procedure of handling it. Tradition had been retrofit.

Yup, I have notice that too.

Few reasons are:

1 the older generations didnt pass down the teachings

2 the temple or tua dont know they need such procedures while holding the Orh Leng

Tua Pek Kong - September 20, 2006 10:26 AM (GMT)
Bro Jave Wu

Nowadays Orh Leng (Black Command Flag) comes in the form of a Ba Gua with some added with the Eight Immortals " Ba Por " could you enlighten.

javewu - September 20, 2006 10:58 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tua Pek Kong @ Sep 20 2006, 07:26 PM)
Bro Jave Wu

Nowadays Orh Leng (Black Command Flag) comes in the form of a Ba Gua with some added with the Eight Immortals " Ba Por " could you enlighten.

Hi Bro,

Actually these 8 objects represent the eight directions and the eight elements of the World.

To be more accurate, actually the flag just need the eight symbol on the Ba Gua will do, but nowsdays, ppl tend to like "beautiful" things, so they added the eight objects to beautify the flag.

emptiness_yh - September 20, 2006 12:30 PM (GMT)
Bagua was created by Fuxi.He gt the idea of bagua frm the elements in the world.thus he planned 2 put it down in signs.i think the bros n sis here sure knw wad they represents.
m i right in saying all these?

javewu - September 20, 2006 12:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (emptiness_yh @ Sep 20 2006, 09:30 PM)
Bagua was created by Fuxi.He gt the idea of bagua frm the elements in the world.thus he planned 2 put it down in signs.i think the bros n sis here sure knw wad they represents.
m i right in saying all these?


What we know here are just the surface meaning of the eight elements.

To be more accurate, the eight elements are more profound than what we know.

The combination of the eight elements can go beyond the Universe or even to other realms.

'wheel'




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