Anyone able to explain the differences in these 3 deity?Most ppl get them mix up ,some even consider them to be the same god in difference names.Heard that another name for Fu de zheng shen is tua pek gong ,is tat true?From wat i know, Tu di gong is in charge of earth n land, the same goes to di zhu god ,how true is tat?I believe this is also the reason y ppl mix up Tu di gong with di zhu ,thinking they r the same deity.I even heard ppl saying another name for tua pek kong is Tu di kong ,anyone able to explain? In taoism how many wealth god are there?Anyone able to list them n explain their differences?Another question,wats the differeneces between Di zhu n Na toh gong since both deity r in charge of both earth n land .


'feilong''bagua1'

In China and Taiwan, Fu De Zheng Shen is known as Tu Di Gong. But in South East Asia, Fu De Zheng Shen is known as Da Bo Gong. I even found out that Fu De Zheng Shen is known as Cuo Zhu Gong in Hainan.

Tu Di Gong in charge of certain area of earth/land while Di Zhu Gong only in charge of a household.

Datuk Gong is actually a "Malay" Tu Di Gong.

Since Fu De Zheng Shen is known as Tu Di Gong in china n taiwan ,while in south east asia its known as Da bo gong then which one is the correct version?As both of them r totally difference god ,this mean tat one of the above version is obviously wrong or maybe both version r wrong. If Datuk Gong is a malay tu di gong then y r we praying to him in a taoist temple?shouldnt he be pray only in malay mosque?just like u wun find any taoist god , malay praying to any taoist god in their mosque.

'feilong' 'bagua1'

Since Tu Di Gong = Da Bo Gong = Fu De Zheng Shen, so both version are correct.
For example, granduncle is known as "pek gong" in Hokkien but "lau pek" in Teochew. So "pek gong" = "lau pek" = granduncle.

There is nothing strange to pray to a "Malay" Tu Di Gong. People even pray to tiger, dog, snake, tree, stone...etc.

I thought they r totally 2 difference gods altogether.And since u claim that they r the same ,is your information correct?I find it irrelevant when u consider praying to Natuk Gong the same as taoist praying to tiger, dog, snake, tree.In taoism,taoist consider Hor Ya n the snake general as one of the taoist gods n its record in taoist scripture , there r story of their origin being recorded in taoism but in the case of Natuk Gong taoist consider it to be a malay god ,its not even in taoist scripture or any story of their origin being recorded related to taoism n thus is a diff matter altogether. The only conclusion i can get is tat the praying of Natuk gong is only confine to Malaysia n singapore ect u cant probably seen it being pray in other country such as china,taiwan n hong kong as its not consider as a taoist deity.The reason y we pray to him is solely because we r staying in a land where ppl consider it to be the land of Malay n Natuk gong is a malay earth god thus staying in the land belonging to malay ppl feel tat we should pray to him too .Taoism isnt a religion where we can anyhow pray to god of other religion without a gd reason ,if its like wat u claim maybe from tomorrow onward taoist should prepare ourself to pray to jesus in taoist temple :) 'feilong' 'bagua1'

Dear Elixir,

Regarding Tu Di Gong and Tua Pek Gong maybe you can refer to this thread:
http://z14.invisionfree.com/taoism_singapo...?showtopic=1410

You're right about Natok Gong being a regional deity in the sense that only Singaporean, Malaysian and Indonesian pray to.

As to why Chinese pray to Natoh Kong, its due to our beautiful Chinese natural of acceptance, which explain why Chinese are able to adapt to various culture worldwide. Christian and Muslim are monolistic religion (as they have only one god), thus will not pray anything else.

Maybe this article can help to explain a little bit:
http://www.shaolinkungfucenter.com/tao/daojia.html

Although Taoist acceptance of Natuk Kong by praying to it in taoist temple can be seen as gesture of being tolerance but the main reason for such a move must have been supported by a valid reason.I dun think taoist will pray to god belonging to other religion without a cause.As to chinese being able to adapt to diff culture ,yes,tats true compare to other races n i believe religion play a big part of it too.For example there r christians who r chinese too but compare to chinese who is a taoist the willingness of tolerance n accptance is lesser .As for the reason y they r unable to adapt as well as chinese ,i dun think the problem lie with them being a monolistic religion (as they have only one god), even if they pray to more than one god i dun believe there will be much changes in their level of adaptation. The reason y they r so, lie with their teaching ,if we take Catholic as an example we can c tat although catholic pray to more than one god such as mother mary n jesus ,the level of adaptation r not much diff compare to muslim n christian.Able to accept more than one god doesnt mean they will be able to accept gods of other religion,able to accept more than one god ' only mean tat they r able to accept gods tats related to their faith .


'feilong' 'bagua1'

Humm... Interesting discussion. But I think we are treading in dangerous territory. Better not commence on other religion here as this forum is suppose to promote Taoism as well as other faiths.

Many thanks for your input.