HED TILL I DIE:What do you think to the new "best of (hed)"..did you have any contribution to the tracklisting and did you get a cut...or was it the record label trying to get as many bucks as they can from material they own rights to?

WES:As far as the best of, I did track down the record moments befroe it got finished and I did have input as to the track selection. [thanks to Michael Tedesco our A&R guy at Jive for giving me a heds up on the whole deal]. The tough thing about something like that is, I know what my favorites are, and how eclectic I wish the cuts were, but it is a 'best of', and in those situations you really do have to pick the most well known songs. The ones that are typically more commercial and more refined. [And as us fans of hardcore shit know, we usually like the obscure B side shit.] So hence the track listing that we decided on. What I didnt get input to as hard as I tried was the art work, I really couldn't track down an in for that in time. See, Jive was bought out and the record is on Sony/BMG Legacy, so with no mgmt and not being technically on the label as a current recording artist working that kinda hit out is relly tough.especially when the record company just wants to make it simple and easy as possible. but what stoked me out is to be in a band that they actrually made a best of CD and that it consists of the jive era (hed) which of course I am stoked on and really feel that that IS the Best of (hed) Biased? Of course! Wouldn't you be? Guaranteed.

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I dont get it sry (lack of english skills I spose) so did they all get money or just Wes for workin on it together with Jive?

any1 help me out? :huh:

peace,
Waiting-To-Die

Wes u wanna play in my band? :lol:

I think they would all get royalties as they all would have a share in the rights of the music.

Ah good,

As long as they're getting something from it.

Jamie

yes they are all gettin money from it... but Wes says he helped pick out the songs, along with "the track listing that WE decided on"... and jahred says he/the band had no say in it. :blink:

did wes help make it "behind the rest of the bands backs" and tell ppl they all contributed? :lol: i doubt it...

so... whats the deal here?

i think "WE"= wes & jive records

www.westylemusic.com

The thing that annoys me about this guy is the fact that every interview he does he trys to downplay every other band members role in the band, he acts like he did everything in the band and the other guys where just back up members. He seems like he is a real ego maniac.

yea i also noticed that, and don't really like him cause of it
on his website it says he wrote the "majority" of the bands martial i no he did some but was it the really the majority

That might be true, but I really liked his style of music that he brought to (Hed) though. He had some great ideas without a doubt.

On that website, how long has it been up for? This is the first I am hearing about it.

yea he of course he did give alot to good shit to hed
and i saw that website up a couple months ago but probably been up longer

I do not doubt Wes brought alot to the band but at the same time it is not fair to down play the contributions of Jah, Product, Chad, Mawk, and BC.

True true. But wasn't Jah and Wes the main driving force behind (Hed)? I mean look at the booklet for the S/T. All songs written by W. Geer and J. Shaine. Also notes that with additional writers and publishers C.Benekos etc.

If you look at the song credits in Broke the repeated names you get are J. Shaine and W. Geer. Also looks like Mawk himself did a bit of programming in Broke too. Hmm. I am just noticing this now. Seems that B.C. isn't credited as much though.

On that site it makes him seem like some sort of God don't ya think? Looks like he is looking for a job. Like a resume.

He just comes across arogant, and his website talks about how he is respected throug out the music industry, honestly since he's left Hed what has he done NOTHING!! Yeah he played a show with Papa Roach.

I have it on good authority as to the real reason he departed from Hed, yes it had a little to due with his substance abuse problem, everybody knew Hed was leaving Jive after Blackout, the band could have stayed on the label if they went in a more acceptable direction and that is what Wes wanted and certain members where not going for that (Product, Jah, Mawk, BC I do not mention Chad, as Chad left because Chad was not happy playing that kind of music) hence Wes leaving.

You can sit and say that there is no truth it, but honestly read between the lines in what he says in the interview. None of the original members where invovled in that atrocious best of album it was only Wes, that is what he means by "We" and the beef between him and Jah stems from many things mostly because Jah, Product, and Mawk carried Hed on and got new members.

I see what you mean dude. You have a point. I see Wes in whole different perspective now. Hmm.

all we know about wes is that he is a former HED guitarist,and all the other shit between him,jah and the rest of the members is not our business.

so its senseless to discuss who right or wrong.

True dude. That guy will always be remembered as a genius guitarist during his time with (hed).

i may remember him as a great guitarist

but from what it seems like

ill also remember him as a prick

just my opinion

Classic, and in response to hed planet earth 1 true it is not our business but when Jah went on the Bubba show and said what he had to say publicly he made it everyone who heard it, there business. Obviously if Jah wanted it to remain between them he never would have said what he had to say out in the open he would have kept quite. I respect Wes for what he did in the band, but I could care less for his elitist attitude.

Why is everybody hates him? C'mon this is Westyle, Hed would never be created without him. The whole S/T album musicaly was written by him so he is musical genius anyway. As far as I know he left the band because of quarrel between him and Jared. But I really miss him and Chizad. When they were in the band every b-side was masterpiece! And Blackout was not so good only because of Jared.

No one ever said they hate, I just do not care for his attitude

Weren't the 2 reasons Wes left because of his substance abuse and the whole thing with Jahred's ex? And yeah Wes is an awesome guitarist.

yeah no one said anything about hating him, especially because of what he brought to hed...just said he's a prick with a bad attitude problem.

There is probably more to it that I could care less to know, he is a good guitarist I do not doubt he had a huge role in the album making process, same goes for any other band member who was in the band at the time. The only thing I am saying is he just comes off like he has an attitude in his interviews, but than again the media are notorious for fucking things and taking things out context with interviews.

Only because of Jah?!?
Was he not having some bad times, because of Wes and the Ex situation?

i thought black out was great, i love all hed albums tho

lax3b
I heard the rest of the band (especially Chizad) were not satisfied with the results and wanted to continue writing process but Jah said that the album is ready. And all that situation with ex is really not the worst thing that can happen in life! It's definitely not enough reason to ruin such awesome band as they were

I was under the impression that it was the other way around...? Maybe I've been misunderstanding what I read before?

Wes left because of substance abuse problems, issues with Jah, and he wanted Hed to go in the same musical direction Jive wanted them, he Jah and the others would not go for it so he split. The main issue between those 2 was a power struggle over who was the real leader in the band

Chad left because he was not happy playing the kind of music the band was playing anymore, he grew out of what they where doing. Chad left on good terms.

BC did not offically leave until the band started doing material for OIA he was not fired, he left because his heart was not in the band anymore and he started making movies and such from what I remember. Again he left on good terms with the band.

As for the band not being happy with the results no truth to that, there was a whole diffrent version of blackout the band did and Jive shelved that and made them go back in the studio and record diffrent material for blackout. After blackout was released the band was given an ultimaetum either you can stay on the label and make acceptable music or be dropped if they went against it they would be dropped. We all know the choice they made. Chad even said it a interview while the band was re-recording the tracks that would make up the version of blackout that is out now. Jah even clearly states this on OIA

That would be cool if the original blackout tracks would resurface...I bet you it was heavier, more like broke.

You have a better chance of getting ice water from hell

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I know, I'd pretty much die to here any of hed's rare shit that we'll probably never hear. If they were smart they'd just fucking release everything, i mean hello more money for you, and all there songs are different so more fans too.

nah i think there a lot of hedpe fans that dont even got rare footage, and didnt even see a bootleg of a show !! i mean the EU tour people only had :hedpe self-titled: :blackout: :broke: :only in amerika: :b2bx: :insomnia: there woz this dude he woz suprised when i talked about COR so they not really into release dates and rare shit !! now i dont see COR rare but hey !! IMO its not gonna work

Those tracks will never see the light of day because Jive has them on lockdown.

well if someone offers a good hand of money !!

Labels sucks, all labels suck. do your shit independent and cut out the middle man.

so fatkid, Jive would never consider to make money of HED like they did with The Best Of CD by doing a B-Sides CD? cuz i see a lot of band's doing that....just curious y Jive wouldnt want sum side cash by doing that

Still shouldn't (hed) have those tracks anyways. I mean they did write them. I pretty sure Jah or one of the ex-members of (hed) has the first press of Blackout, right?

They would probably do that if the Best Of went Platinum or something. They would see lots of $ signs and do that for sure, too bad that's not gonna happen.