Title: Does Mana speak any english?
Description: or just japanese?
Madi_Malice_13 - September 7, 2008 12:56 AM (GMT)
Cause I might move to Japan eventually (I travel around the world alot), and if I go to a Moi Dix Mois concert I'd like to know whether he'll understand me when I run up screaming "Oh my god Mana I love you!!!!!" ^_^ ...Or if I say something not crazy, too.
AngelaAshford06 - September 7, 2008 03:13 AM (GMT)
From what I can remember, Mana said he was studying it some. "I love you" is a very simple phrase to learn, so I'm sure he'd understand it with no problems (especially with all the fanmail he gets!). :D
porcelainmaiden - September 7, 2008 03:33 AM (GMT)
Of course if Mana was going to say it, it would sound like....
"Eye raub hoo!" :D
Sorry Mana......I couldn't resist!!!!
LeCiel - September 7, 2008 03:35 AM (GMT)
Astral Romance - September 7, 2008 11:23 AM (GMT)
I think he should understand english. His english probably is not perfect but if he writes english lyrics and writes aestetics messages in english (it doesn't matter he doesn't do that very often) he has to speak this language...
iSynth - September 7, 2008 12:57 PM (GMT)
Clueless Ricky comment: I think he knows at least some because he's been to America and other english-speaking countres, he's written some things in Engrish, he's probably been exposed to lots of english-speaking people, they teach students SOME english is school there (right??), and there are lots of random english things (like TV show names or whatever... I mean, if there is a foreign tv show name here you would look it up and learn the meaning and then know some new words, so I'm sure Japanese people do that for english show names like "hot wave" or whatever.) But I DON'T think you could sit down and have a loooong in-depth english convo with him... in the event that he would ever even talk to begin with XDDD
oh yeah, and that nasty gackt dude speaks engrish so... mana prolly does to XD
Izumi - September 7, 2008 05:17 PM (GMT)
K speaks English..... he spoke English to the hotel staff in Germany XDDDD
Marianne - September 7, 2008 07:12 PM (GMT)
He never speaks anything but Japanese when interviewed.
He once said in Paris that he could understand everything the French said but I somehow doubt it.
Perhaps it's me or is it another case for "Shut up giggles!" but I could never make out this sentence in "Unmoved" :
"Leave yourself to pity music of burying a foolish man (dunce)"
Anybody here could enlighten me?
Izumi - September 7, 2008 09:33 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Marianne @ Sep 7 2008, 08:12 PM) |
"Leave yourself to pity music of burying a foolish man (dunce)" |
THATS BLATANTLY BABELFISH'D XD
ManaVampire - September 8, 2008 01:02 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Izumi @ Sep 7 2008, 03:33 PM) |
| QUOTE (Marianne @ Sep 7 2008, 08:12 PM) | "Leave yourself to pity music of burying a foolish man (dunce)" |
THATS BLATANTLY BABELFISH'D XD
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Or excite.jp translator. Thats what all the "cool" Japanese kids are using now-a-days. XDDDD
Astral Romance - September 8, 2008 10:07 AM (GMT)
Marianne, maybe he can speak french and can't speak english. English is not the only one language at the entire world! This topic name makes me a little bit angry (Does Mana speak any english? or just japanese). Where are other languages? Maybe english is important to us but it isn't important to him. Maybe he thinks it is more cool to learn french than english.
Marianne - September 8, 2008 02:27 PM (GMT)
@Astral Romance : He (and therefore I) never said he could SPEAK French, he just said he could understand it, which would be not bad at all.
And I totally agree with you that it's a shame English should have become today's world-shared language, because all languages are interesting in as much as they convey a different viewpoint upon the world and life in general, and we desperately need to maintain as much variety as we can, because nobody holds THE truth!
Maddy-chan - September 8, 2008 05:22 PM (GMT)
well moil did moist / more like engrish XD
Izumi - September 8, 2008 05:32 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ManaVampire @ Sep 8 2008, 02:02 AM) |
| QUOTE (Izumi @ Sep 7 2008, 03:33 PM) | | QUOTE (Marianne @ Sep 7 2008, 08:12 PM) | "Leave yourself to pity music of burying a foolish man (dunce)" |
THATS BLATANTLY BABELFISH'D XD
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Or excite.jp translator. Thats what all the "cool" Japanese kids are using now-a-days. XDDDD
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Haha! It must be so bad sometimes when in Japanese, they have some sort of cool saying, then..... INTERNET TRANSLATOR XDD
It reminds me of a time me and my friend saw a Chinese girl with "I want to fucking die" on her t-shirt... we we're like... I wonder if she knows what I means?
iSynth - September 8, 2008 07:44 PM (GMT)
english pretty much pwns.
thats why i speak it so well << joke
Astral Romance - September 8, 2008 08:46 PM (GMT)
Marianne, maybe it is a little bit random thing, but i think that the person is not cool if he speaks english. The person is cool when he/she knows many languages. I know Mana hasn't said he can speak french but to be honest i think that Mana can speak french more well than he can speak english. I am sad i can't speak french but i think i will try to learn the french basics next year (this year i will be working on polish and german).
porcelainmaiden - September 8, 2008 09:27 PM (GMT)
One of the reasons english is used worldwide, is because of open commerce and free trade.
English has become the language of business.
ManaVampire - September 8, 2008 09:30 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Izumi @ Sep 8 2008, 11:32 AM) |
| QUOTE (ManaVampire @ Sep 8 2008, 02:02 AM) | | QUOTE (Izumi @ Sep 7 2008, 03:33 PM) | | QUOTE (Marianne @ Sep 7 2008, 08:12 PM) | "Leave yourself to pity music of burying a foolish man (dunce)" |
THATS BLATANTLY BABELFISH'D XD
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Or excite.jp translator. Thats what all the "cool" Japanese kids are using now-a-days. XDDDD
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Haha! It must be so bad sometimes when in Japanese, they have some sort of cool saying, then..... INTERNET TRANSLATOR XDD
It reminds me of a time me and my friend saw a Chinese girl with "I want to fucking die" on her t-shirt... we we're like... I wonder if she knows what I means?
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HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA I saw a guy with a shirt similar to that in Osaka and I laughed out loud XDDDD
Astral Romance> I sort of have high doubts that Mana knows French better than English. In Japan just about everyone tries to speak or at least learn English because its such a wide known language. People over there are VERY hard pressed to learn English as it is mandatory to learn English until about 7th grade (and if you go to college over there you must take at least 2 years of English classes...not that Mana went to college, but just making a general statement..XD). Also, If you're from Europe or America, Japanese people will even stop you on the streets and try to speak with you in English...it happened to me a number of times when I was there. Unless Mana has intensively studied French on his own or took classes (which he very well could have), I highly doubt his French is better than his English. But at the same time, I do agree that he probably does understand some French...but since society is so hard pressed for English in Japan, I just really couldn't imagine him being better at French.
iSynth - September 8, 2008 09:41 PM (GMT)
considering everyone on this forum communicates in english, i don't think it's uncool at all. in fact, i think its VERY COOL that people from all over the world can connect through one language to talk about music.
people always associate america and english... they don't like america, so they think english is a stupid language. keep in mind that america isn't the only country that speaks english! english isn't name after america... it's another country on the other side of an ocean. just because america is trying to take over the business world and fight wars they have no place in doesn't mean that our main language is bad! lots of people try to learn it for a reason!
also, i think it would be easier to master english then french, just because in english there arent femine and masculine words and whatever else. so from that aspect, i think it would be an easier language to memorize and remember and apply.
but all that aside, i have tons of respect for anyone that can read / write japanese, just because its so complex. i'm sure even japanese people struggle to learn it all. i know i couldn't do it :)
porcelainmaiden - September 8, 2008 09:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ManaVampire @ Sep 8 2008, 03:30 PM) |
Astral Romance> I sort of have high doubts that Mana knows French...but since society is so hard pressed for English in Japan, I just really couldn't imagine him being better at French. |
Yes, Asian countries are very hard pressed for teachers of English as well.
Like the neighbouring country Taiwan, they will pay high school graduates anually to teach English.
lips_blood_red - September 9, 2008 01:54 AM (GMT)
i think Mana surely undestands and speaks english well and way better than french because of the obvious facts everyone has already said, english is a globalized lenguage so everyone in the world must speak english to have any kind of international relationship (studies, business, frienship, or anything else) and that doesn't means english is necesary 'cool' just because it's the lenguage of the major business country, and thank go it's easy :unsure: hehehehe
Also if Mana only speak japanese in interviews and in the most of his songs that's because, as he said, he wants to expand and crossover in his birth lenguage.
Marianne - September 9, 2008 07:41 PM (GMT)
I think that English is much more than a highly useful language. It is also a really fine one, and one that's easy enough for us to communicate with all sorts of people who visit our countries, study there or share the same interests with us, wherever they and we live, and that's simply GREAT!
On the other hand, it tends to encourage laziness at learning other languages, and that's bad and dangerous because words don't necessarily match your thinking when they're not the ones you live with everyday. Also the connection between word and concept can differ from one culture to another, and that makes for unexpected and often long-lasting misunderstandings.
As for the impact of French in Japan, I believe it's very small, more like a fashionable taste than a serious knowledge, even though I think they take a true interest in everything French. But then French college and high-schools kids have become very much Japan and Japanese-crazy over the past few years too, especially with the bands now touring Europe.
iSynth - September 10, 2008 08:22 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Marianne @ Sep 9 2008, 01:41 PM) |
I think that English is much more than a highly useful language. It is also a really fine one, and one that's easy enough for us to communicate with all sorts of people who visit our countries, study there or share the same interests with us, wherever they and we live, and that's simply GREAT!
On the other hand, it tends to encourage laziness at learning other languages, and that's bad and dangerous because words don't necessarily match your thinking when they're not the ones you live with everyday. Also the connection between word and concept can differ from one culture to another, and that makes for unexpected and often long-lasting misunderstandings.
As for the impact of French in Japan, I believe it's very small, more like a fashionable taste than a serious knowledge, even though I think they take a true interest in everything French. But then French college and high-schools kids have become very much Japan and Japanese-crazy over the past few years too, especially with the bands now touring Europe. |
Yeah I agree... slang screws stuff up though, because literal meaning is ALOT different then what it is interprited as. I know I'm a total hypocrite, but I think Americans are generally lazy... I mean, look at my spelling and grammer or whatever. It's not that I try to be bad, but I just... idk... it's like, Americans write the way they talk.
Astral Romance - September 11, 2008 05:46 PM (GMT)
I don't say english is bad, it is definitely a good language because it helps to communitace with people from other countries. I always liked how English sounds liked. I joined english forums because i just wanted to improve my english speaking and writting skills... But you know... it is only a fashion. English is popular not for a long time and we don't know how long it will remain popular. Frensh is also popular and people really tried to make it as an "international" language...idk maybe it was in XIX century... We know language esperanto that also had to be international language. Everything changes very fast, so, people, learn how to speak other languages xD.
About Mana. Yeah, English is a popular language but we all know Mana loves France, so i think it is a good reason whyhe can speak this language. If he knows french he can also speak with people from lother countries. English IS popular but there are other languages that are popular too :D
Izumi - September 11, 2008 05:58 PM (GMT)
on the note of Slang.... Japanese Language is rife with it..... so really its not so different from English....
Marianne - September 11, 2008 08:05 PM (GMT)
Mana said he loved France and French, but he never said he loved us French people, so I have doubts and in fact I understand and approve him because I don't like them either, hehehehe!
My fellow citizens enjoy a very bad reputation inside and outside the country, and Parisians are unanimously loathed, by the French as well as by most foreign visitors, but then I guess it's the same everywhere, people living in capitals tend to feel "superior" to the rest of the population, God knows why! I have spent quite some time in England, Ireland and even America, so I can look at the French with an outsider's eye and frankly there's a lot to be ashamed of, especially the way foreign visitors are too often treated. I felt terribly bad visiting the Louvre when a pair of was-it-Americans? asked me if I was French after I waited for them to reach the lift and exchanged a few casual words with them (in English). They asked looking at me in utter disbelief that one could be nice AND French, and I felt awfully sorry for them and ashamed at the thought that they must have been badly treated here and there before. There is even such a thing as "The Paris Syndrome" which the Japanese seem to be prone to, the contrast between their public behaviour and ours being too much for some! Fortunately there are also many kind people, especially among the younger ones who have travelled abroad and can speak English.
Izumi - September 11, 2008 09:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Marianne @ Sep 11 2008, 09:05 PM) |
Mana said he loved France and French, but he never said he loved us French people, so I have doubts and in fact I understand and approve him because I don't like them either, hehehehe!
My fellow citizens enjoy a very bad reputation inside and outside the country, and Parisians are unanimously loathed, by the French as well as by most foreign visitors, but then I guess it's the same everywhere, people living in capitals tend to feel "superior" to the rest of the population, God knows why! I have spent quite some time in England, Ireland and even America, so I can look at the French with an outsider's eye and frankly there's a lot to be ashamed of, especially the way foreign visitors are too often treated. I felt terribly bad visiting the Louvre when a pair of was-it-Americans? asked me if I was French after I waited for them to reach the lift and exchanged a few casual words with them (in English). They asked looking at me in utter disbelief that one could be nice AND French, and I felt awfully sorry for them and ashamed at the thought that they must have been badly treated here and there before. There is even such a thing as "The Paris Syndrome" which the Japanese seem to be prone to, the contrast between their public behaviour and ours being too much for some! Fortunately there are also many kind people, especially among the younger ones who have travelled abroad and can speak English. |
I LOVED the Parisians!!!!
They were lovely to me.
I found I got along with them better that other people I've met in France.
I find with other places I've visited, like Calais being one place in particular where I've experienced this, even though its a port and they have a lot of foreign people coming in and out, if you can't speak French and shop keepers/waiters etc know this and that you're foreign, they aren't particularly helpful to you.
Its bad because I've visited Ludivine in Montreal, and it is predominantly french speaking, but I had the attitude that I couldn't speak to people because they might have thought I was ignorant, because I couldn't speak they're language. However, Ludivine told me that this isn't the case because a lot of people speak enough English to understand me, and I was received well when people knew I was foreign.
I understand though, that people may dislike people from Capitals. I know alot of people who don't like the Cockneys (people from London) I don't really care to be honest, London's a hole anyway XD
I don't think the UK schools really focus enough on the importance of learning a language. We're part of Europe, it should be encouraged much more if we are to be accepted as an international economic community.
And!! I just like to say.... About people from Capitals.... If you're From Cardiff.... its our Prifddinas or anywhere else in wales... you're awesome by default!! :D
porcelainmaiden - September 11, 2008 11:34 PM (GMT)
I think it's horrible when people discriminate others based on mispreconceptions.
lips_blood_red - September 12, 2008 12:42 AM (GMT)
i remember, i think from the 99 question MM interview, there was a question about... "if you are walking on the streets and a foreigner ask you for an address or something would you stop and help?"
Mana answered he'd only stop if the person were french, so i think that means Mana loves french people as well as France...
Izumi - September 12, 2008 12:17 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (lips_blood_red @ Sep 12 2008, 01:42 AM) |
"if you are walking on the streets and a foreigner ask you for an address or something would you stop and help?"
Mana answered he'd only stop if the person were french, so i think that means Mana loves french people as well as France... |
XENOPHOBE!
Marianne - September 12, 2008 04:25 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Izumi @ Sep 12 2008, 06:17 AM) |
| QUOTE (lips_blood_red @ Sep 12 2008, 01:42 AM) | "if you are walking on the streets and a foreigner ask you for an address or something would you stop and help?"
Mana answered he'd only stop if the person were french, so i think that means Mana loves french people as well as France... |
XENOPHOBE!
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MASOCHIST!
BloodRoseBed - December 7, 2008 12:22 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Maddy-chan @ Sep 8 2008, 11:22 AM) |
| well moil did moist / more like engrish XD |
I always thought fo that as a typo XD
manalove - July 11, 2009 06:19 AM (GMT)
Ludivine - July 11, 2009 07:01 AM (GMT)
Please refrain from posting in threads that have been inactive for over 6 months unless you have new information that can contribute to the topic. Doing so is referred to as grave digging or necromancy and it's not that practice isn't appreciated on most forums.
I can see that you are new here so I suggest you introduce yourself first. You can do so in this thread:
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lips_blood_red - July 12, 2009 01:21 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Ludivine @ Jul 11 2009, 01:01 AM) |
grave digging or necromancy
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*0* OMG!
sorry for this extremely out of topicness Lu, but i couldn't help a big LOL and weird images of an old horror movie dark cementery in my mind when i read that xD
Ludivine - July 12, 2009 04:10 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (lips_blood_red @ Jul 11 2009, 09:21 PM) |
| QUOTE (Ludivine @ Jul 11 2009, 01:01 AM) | grave digging or necromancy
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*0* OMG!
sorry for this extremely out of topicness Lu, but i couldn't help a big LOL and weird images of an old horror movie dark cementery in my mind when i read that xD
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lol
From Urban Dictionary:
Necromancy:
The act of bringing up an old thread on a forum.
Grave digging:
On a Forum, when you post on a thread that has not been posted on in a long time.
lips_blood_red - July 13, 2009 02:02 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Ludivine @ Jul 11 2009, 10:10 PM) |
| QUOTE (lips_blood_red @ Jul 11 2009, 09:21 PM) | | QUOTE (Ludivine @ Jul 11 2009, 01:01 AM) | grave digging or necromancy
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*0* OMG!
sorry for this extremely out of topicness Lu, but i couldn't help a big LOL and weird images of an old horror movie dark cementery in my mind when i read that xD
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lol
From Urban Dictionary:
Necromancy: The act of bringing up an old thread on a forum.
Grave digging: On a Forum, when you post on a thread that has not been posted on in a long time.
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LOL
i already know what it refers to in this forum case. But if you read it literally then it's so hilarious xD
Ludivine - July 13, 2009 05:03 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (lips_blood_red @ Jul 12 2009, 10:02 PM) |
| i already know what it refers to in this forum case. But if you read it literally then it's so hilarious xD |
I'm not sure I get the joke, sorry.