Title: music videos....
earl_yoru - March 25, 2008 01:32 PM (GMT)
does moi dix mois release music videos? (i dont mean their lives...) pleeez dont bite my head off for my stupid Q's :) .....
Immortal Angel - March 25, 2008 03:34 PM (GMT)
you mean PVs? No, I didnt hear for any. I think Mana-Sama spoke about it once. The interviewer asked him if they will release a PV, but I think that he said it is not planned.
But I'm not shure ^^'
:dix:
ManaVampire - March 25, 2008 05:22 PM (GMT)
A long time ago he said he may release one in the future....but that was years ago. XD
They don't currently have anything out, and I get this feeling that they probably wont make any, and if they do it could be a very long time from now. :x
earl_yoru - March 25, 2008 06:08 PM (GMT)
:( awww .... man! but do u know where i could find that interview?
ManaVampire - March 26, 2008 04:30 AM (GMT)
I know it was posted on one of the Mana or Moi dix Mois LJ communities a couple years ago. You would have to look through them. :x If I remember correctly, it was an Orkus interview.
earl_yoru - March 26, 2008 12:41 PM (GMT)
:D thanx! ill look right away!
iSynth - March 26, 2008 11:01 PM (GMT)
I was wondering the same thing. It just seems to me (please, nobody take this the wrong way I am NOT Mana bashing!) But it seems to be me like he isn't making MDM as big of a production as MM was. Ex. limited touring, no PVs, etc. I mean, ask anyone outside of Japan if they've heard of MM and it's more than likely they'll at least have heard of them. But ask about MDM... not a chance. Again, not bashing Mana I'm just making an observation.
sweet_decadence - March 27, 2008 12:17 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (iSynth @ Mar 26 2008, 11:01 PM) |
| I was wondering the same thing. It just seems to me (please, nobody take this the wrong way I am NOT Mana bashing!) But it seems to be me like he isn't making MDM as big of a production as MM was. Ex. limited touring, no PVs, etc. I mean, ask anyone outside of Japan if they've heard of MM and it's more than likely they'll at least have heard of them. But ask about MDM... not a chance. Again, not bashing Mana I'm just making an observation. |
I do agree Malice Mizer was very well promoted with all there music videos, tv appearances & magizine appearances. Moi Dix Mois however really seems to be carried more on Manas fame, the internet and word of mouth. I've always felt that Moi Dix Mois was more of a live orientated band, with less focus on the visual image and is more music based. Despite the lesser promotion however I feel that Moil Did Moist is better known than Malice Mizer, at here in the Scotland it is. I've asked friends if they've heard of Malice Mizer and to date only one has said yes. While when I ask if they've heard of Moi Dix Mois I've noticed that more have said yes, a few like them, one saw them live. Thats my observation. It would be very interesting however to see a music video from Moi Dix Mois.
A second observation, Malice MIzers albums were telling stories right? Moi dix Mois, not so much.
earl_yoru - March 27, 2008 12:28 AM (GMT)
no worries--i completely understand!and i cant say i wasnt disapointed to hear mana-sama wasnt gonna make pv s ...but...he knows what hes doing ...i hope :) ...i wonder why he chose not to be so ( 4 lack of a better word) flamboyant w/ m10m...hmmm...
sweet_decadence - March 27, 2008 12:38 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (earl_yoru @ Mar 27 2008, 12:28 AM) |
| no worries--i completely understand!and i cant say i wasnt disapointed to hear mana-sama wasnt gonna make pv s ...but...he knows what hes doing ...i hope :) ...i wonder why he chose not to be so ( 4 lack of a better word) flamboyant w/ m10m...hmmm... |
Maybe the promotion of Malice MIzer wasn't his decision. Thats what I think anyway.
earl_yoru - March 27, 2008 12:55 AM (GMT)
ah...yes i see...that does make sense...and like u said stories were being told in MM pv s, those probly had no DIRECT conection w/ him... i think...he ( since he speaks thru music) comunicates thru song wanting us 2 'look' deeper into the sounds...thats where the story is being told...if you listen well enough youll hear him telling u all u wanted 2 know ...heh...i feel he wants us 2 listen rather than watch...thats my idea...
ManaVampire - March 27, 2008 03:54 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sweet_decadence @ Mar 26 2008, 06:38 PM) |
| QUOTE (earl_yoru @ Mar 27 2008, 12:28 AM) | | no worries--i completely understand!and i cant say i wasnt disapointed to hear mana-sama wasnt gonna make pv s ...but...he knows what hes doing ...i hope :) ...i wonder why he chose not to be so ( 4 lack of a better word) flamboyant w/ m10m...hmmm... |
Maybe the promotion of Malice MIzer wasn't his decision. Thats what I think anyway.
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I completely have to agree with everything you're saying (and LOL Moil did Moist).
I agree with the management in MM (especially in the time with Columbia Japan) that Mana probably didn't have a lot of say in the decision in whether they will be making PVs or not.
I think you can tell by the Moi dix Mois is presented especially when you go to a live event that they're much more performance based rather than PV and visual. Malice Mizer probably would have been nobodies if they hadn't gone under Columbia Japan for a while. Thats excluding the fact that they were unique and had great musical abilities. But management and promotion are key things when it comes to making videos and such. Honestly, I don't think Moi dix Mois will ever be geared towards such things with them being under such a small record label that probably couldn't even afford the equipment to make PVs in the first place (seeing as the equipment would probably be used rarely). The longer I stay within the fandom and learn more about Mana, Moi dix Mois, and Midi: Nette, the more I lean towards the ideal that the staffing is extremely limited and very basic in their abilities. A lot of things you see coming from Midi: Nette are either being produced mainly by Mana, Taqueya, or Yukie Itoh. If you want a big flourishing business that is REALLY going to promote bands and create enough profit and advertisement, you would need a lot more than an artist that is extremely intelligent on business and is using his past fame to keep him up, a graphics artist, and a long term band manager.
If you look at Malice Mizer's history in financing, there were A LOT of times when the band almost broke up due to the amounts of money they were constantly losing. The amount of visuals they put into the costuming, sets, and even PVs took so much out of their profit that there were times (in each era -- Tetsu, Gackt, and Klaha) where the band went under. In fact, Malice Mizer went bankrupt after the HUGE bara live (which was when they were back with Midi: Nette). So I'm kinda lead to believe that Mana has either learned to be more money conscious, or hes setting priorities for what he wants out of Moi dix Mois as to exactly what he wants to invest money into. PVs may be VERY low on the priority list since they do take out a big chunk of money out of Midi: Nette's wallet and it might not even do much for advertising or earning profit from what they paid for to make it in the first place (because you know if it were to be done Mana would want it to be professional, not like the Europe tour DVDs).
On the other hand, even though it doesn't have much to do with making PVs, they really are quite successful in the fact that they have some amazing live performances and they're making the effort to travel globally. Thats really doing a lot for them and it does make them extinguished from MM when you look at it in that perspective (not that MM didn't have great live performances, they just never traveled outside of Japan).
I guess I see it as Mana is getting older. I don't think its stopping him from anything, but it does limit his wants and needs as far as fame goes. I think hes happy with the direction hes going with doing only live events rather than PVs and fancy self advertisement. Hes no longer (within Japan) this god-like major artist-icon type person waiting to be number one on oricon with a billion nameless fans, but rather a wonderful performing artist that can be respected for his musical and visual choices by his "family" of fans that dedicate themselves to him. In conclusion to that with my own personal thoughts, I truly believe he cherishes his fans as much as he says, because the true fans who continue to come back to him are like his family now. I think together the band and fan base has become quite close and its something that at this point in his career that continues to hold him up and he couldn't just simply establish more fans as Malice Mizer probably could have accomplished more easily, if his fan base were to walk out on him now.
lips_blood_red - April 12, 2008 02:55 AM (GMT)
well i think he doesn't worry about PV's just because MdM is not a visual band as Malice Mizer was, and MdM is concentrated on music, that is Mana real language, so he doesn't need to make PV's or a great theatrical scenary with expensive suits.
And remembering that Moi dix Mois is Mana's big dream, and he always said that he'd like something that is most a rockband to performing real rockshows, that's why he is concentrating the most in touring around the world than promote MdM.