This has been on my mind since he attacked Orochimaru. When he fought Naruto ill say that he was stringer than Kakashi when using the level 2 cursed seal, but weaker in anything less than that. Since training with Orochimaru Sasuke has become incredibly strong in a short amount of time.

Obviously he would not attack Orochimaru if he didn't think he could win. so who can we compare Sasukes power to.

I think that Sasuke right now is maybe as strong as the Third was when he fought Oroichmaru, i base this on the fact that Oro is weak right now due to the effects of his body switching jutsu. But still for Sasuke at age 15 to be as strong as the third was during his old age, thats quite an accomplishment.

I wanna hear what other people think of how strong Sasuke is.

i believe him to be as strong as itachi no sharingan...

I doubt his abilities could kill Itachi now, probably when he's thirty or something.

I agree, I think Itachi would burry him into the ground. I'm also pretty sure that Sasuke is strong due to the fact that Orochirmaru has taught him a lot of forbidden jutsus. I don't think that Orochimaru would really be as strong as he is now if not for all the kinjutsus he's created/learned.

Anyway, Sasuke is strong in a sense, but compare him to Naruto. Naruto is stronger than Kakashi without Kyuubi, and when Kyuubi takes over and he's not one tail, he's obviously a lot stronger. And when he fought Orochimaru, and went four tail, he (sort of) crushed Orochimaru sense he couldn't get a scratch on him. To Sasuke, the only thing that matters is if he is stronger than Itachi and Naruto.

I'd put him at 1.5x Kakashi without curse seal, no telling how high he's elevated when the cursed seal kicks in.

But of course, Oro can sever that seal, as we've seen with Anko, so that might not be an option for Sasuke soon...

Where would you put Naruto compared to Kakashi? I would put him at the same level as Sasuke.


Sasuke with the Curse Seal is incredibly strong. Oro has to take away the curse seal or I don't think he stands a chance. But, I agree with Sasuke and his "monolouge" during the fight in 344 saying that Orochimaru has no purpose of changing bodies and stuff.

Naruto, even with his new raining, I'd put him at, or a tiny bit above Kakashi. Still no match for Sasuke yet.

Remember how badly Sasuke dominated him? He didn't even stand a chance. naruto hasn't improved enough that he can take on Sasuke yet.

Ummmm... they never really "fought". Naruto got away from Sasuke's attack, charged him, and Naruto got shocked, then Sasuke was about to do a move and nothing happened.

If it was regular Sasuke vs. Regular Naruto, yes Sasuke would win. But, if it was Kyuubi Naruto vs Curse seal Sasuke, Naruto would win.

Sasuke owned Naruto, two high ranking ANBU members and Sakura without hardly breaking a sweat. Did we read the same chapter?

EDIT: Alright, I just re-read it. You were right, it wasn't nearly as bad a beating as I thought. But I would still put Sasuke above Naruto by a sizable margin.